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54f93 No.1062

This is the first culture general on grimchan. This general is dedicated to discussion and appreciation of literature, music, cinema, architecture and all other forms of art. Feel free to post things you like or just recently read/saw/listened to etc. and share your thoughts on them.

922d7 No.1065

>>1062
What sort of music do you like OP? I have shit taste, I mostly listen to /mu/ trash indie. Stuff like Neutral Milk Hotel and AJJ. But end of the day I don't think it really matters as long as people enjoy what they listen to.

11ca8 No.1066

>>1065
My favourite genres are post-rock and dream-pop/shoegaze, but I also listen to emo and classical music fairly often. As for having a shit taste, just listen to more music, buddy. It is true that thete's no point in listening to "sophisticated" music if you don't enjoy it, but once you are be able to do so, you'll be captivated by it nothing like you've ever been. Here's a nice album I've come across recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPGX5RP598c&list=PLKUyqLlH6brnzROBxikSs-i9VdCVAG9Cl&index=1

922d7 No.1067

>>1066
I'll give it a try and report back, thanks!

I can see this general getting pretty big seeing as it's basically /tv/, /lit/, /mu/ and whatever else all in one. Probably better with how slow the place is to keep it all in one place.

11ca8 No.1068

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>>1067
>I can see this general getting pretty big
God I hope so
I've figured there wouldn't be enough people interested in each topic separately so I decided to make a thread covering them all at once
It would be especially nice to see people here discussing something else than just /mu/, /lit/ and /tv/ stuff though. For instance, I don't remember seeing any sort of fine arts or architecture threads that aren't just some retards sperging about how art used to be better 200 years ago on any imageboard I've ever been to, so it would be great if these and other more niche themes took off here. But since I'm particularly well-versed only in literature I guess I can't help with that myself, unfortunately

922d7 No.1069

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>>1068
Actually I remember way back when I was here the last time the site was up there was a whole thread about people's favorite painters/styles that was pretty comfy

also why did you post a whore

11ca8 No.1070

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>>1069
>a whole thread about people's favorite painters/styles
Must've been great, shame I didn't get to see it since that time I was just using grimchan as a sort of a substitute for /bant/

>also why did you post a whore

Get over retarded waifuwars already

922d7 No.1071

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>>1070
I've always liked surrealist styles, Dali in particular. Guy was fucking weird, too. A lot of occult-centered art takes cues from him too.

>Dalí had a thing for masochistic pain, and he loved to throw himself down the stairs for no apparent reason. He also liked inflicting pain on others, and in one memorable incident, he randomly pushed his friend off a 15-foot high bridge and onto jagged rocks below. The friend was badly injured, but Dalí apparently showed no remorse, smiling as his friend’s mother tended to his wounds. Dalí even felt comfortable enough to sit there, eating cherries, as his friend lost copious amounts of blood.


>His second visit to New York, in 1934, hit the city like a hurricane. First, he made a scene by wearing a life jacket for his entire journey to New York and also attaching all of his paintings to himself via a string, which had to be annoying for the crew.

922d7 No.1072

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>>1071
You can definitely see some Dali in Aleistar Crowley's paintings, too. He was more well known for poetry (which is particularly good, I can paste some of my favorites in here if people are interested) but I enjoy it a lot. It's pretty amateur but has a certain feel to it, it's like, surreal but with a sinister feel that you can't quite put your finger on.

922d7 No.1073

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>>1072
While I'm on about occult art, Leonorda Carrington is really fun. A lot of occult art is just surrealism with symbolism, but damn do I ever like it. The figures she makes are very uncanny-valley and it's a fun sort of unsettling.

11ca8 No.1074

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>>1071
Well, I guess there is a certain charm to surrealism, but I find Dali's technique to be a bit boring desu, although I guess I still like some of his pieces

My favourite genre is impressionism. And since I like paintings of landscapes, I guess my favourite painter would be Monet. I appreciate how he manages to express classical subjects in a refreshing style with an interesting approach to aesthetics, and the fact that his paintings have a deep emotional impact without raising any particularly tragic themes and not by just being merely beautiful is a plus too

922d7 No.1075

>>1074
I can't put my finger on why this is the case but I can see exactly what you mean by your examples. I love strange stuff like that, there's a certain charm to being a pleb when it comes to this stuff and not being able to figure out why certain pieces make you feel a certain way.

It's like, when you get technical enough, it loses that bit of mystery.

11ca8 No.1076

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>>1075
Well, 'technical' analysis is mostly used to dig deeper into piece's aesthetic qualities and therefore does cover piece's emotional impact to some extend, but since it's still subconscious to a large degree I guess you might be right on that

922d7 No.1077

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>>1076
Totally off topic, but while looking through Crowley's art, he lists this as a self portrait

guy was a fucking weirdo

11ca8 No.1078

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>>1077
>guy was a fucking weirdo
He founded a Satanist church or something so I suppose that suits him right
Plus not like this kind of shit was exclusive to him

922d7 No.1079

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>>1077
Oh, and I guess I should mention current artists I semi-follow.

Rithika Merchant is one for sure, most of these were done in 2015. Occult symbolism + surrealism + themes of female anatomy is like my shit

Forgive me for dumping so much, I am a sperg when it comes to this shit

>>1078
>satanist
Hardly, he was a member of Golden Dawn, a subsect of the Masons, and created a subsect called Thelema. They're all about finding your "true will", or your purpose in life, and their only law is "do what thou wilt" or "fulfill your purpose". There's nothing particularly "evil" about it, Crowley was just a really edgy guy.

11ca8 No.1080

>>1079
>Forgive me for dumping so much, I am a sperg when it comes to this shit
Don't mention it, I thnk these look very nice desu

>Hardly, he was a member of Golden Dawn, a subsect of the Masons, and created a subsect called Thelema

Honestly, I don't know much about the guy other than that he wrote some poetry, praised Satan or something and participated in massive orgies in Italy(?)

922d7 No.1081

>>1080
I've read several biographies on him/most of his books, mostly out of autistic interest, I don't actually practice any of it. But most of the stuff about satanism was just tabloids trying to create sensationalism.

Fucker was really strange though. He believed orgasm was basically the key to creating the strongest spike in bodily energy, hence orgies to basically perform rituals.

If you REALLY want to hear some weird shit, google Jack Parsons. Student of Crowley, friend (and eventual cuck) to L Ron Hubbard, and founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and eventually what became NASA.

922d7 No.1082

>>1062
sorry to be a pleb but what movies do you guys like?

11ca8 No.1083

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>>1082
My taste in films sort of stop developing when I graduated highschool, but my favourites are Visitor of a Museum, Nostalghia, Wild Strawberries and Space Odyssey. Also EoE if that counts

922d7 No.1084

>>1082
>>1083
I had to take a film class and I have to say it did absolutely nothing for me. Then again, I go to a University focused on technology.

EoE is based. The other day I was watching Oliver Stone's W. which is really good. And as pleb as this is going to sound, I really enjoyed the Sonic movie.

I'm…not really very sophisticated about movies.

11ca8 No.1085

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>>1084
My school literature teacher held a cinema club where she would show us some iconic films and explain history and artistic features of cinematography in general. We watched a lot of films there, from short clips by brothers Lumiere and Battleship Potemkin to Star Wars. Our teacher was very passionate about the subject so not only did we learn a lot but also had a plenty of fun. Shame she left teaching for some time on order to get a degree in directory, I really liked her :(

922d7 No.1086

>>1085
Ah yeah that sounds better than mine. Our professor was just really terrible and her choice in films was so bad.

We had to watch a 2 hour "documentary" on the meat industry where it was literally just pigs and cows being cut up and packaged with 0 dialogue or music.

11ca8 No.1087

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>>1086
Lole
Did she bother to explain that choice?

922d7 No.1088

>>1087
Nope. I loved trying to write a paper on that movie. I think the only movie she showed us I enjoyed was Grand Budapest Hotel, which I'd already seen many times.

You just reminded me of how much I love Drive, though. Sometimes it's worth listening to /tv/.

11ca8 No.1089

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>>1088
>Nope. I loved trying to write a paper on that movie.
Lel
>Grand Butapest Hotel
Still haven't seen that one desu, probably should fix that on tomorrow's night then

And yeah, Drive and BR2049 indeed were pretty good, although the I'd say they still were way overhyped on /tv/

922d7 No.1090

>>1089
Oh yeah they were overhyped, but I wouldn't have watched Drive if /tv/ hadn't mentioned it. I saw a guy in the jacket a couple week ago and I am 100% sure he was a /tv/fag.

Grand Budapest is good, it's very style over substance but in a quirky sort of way. It's a good movie and it's just gorgeous to look at. Definitely the best thing Wes Anderson's done.

11ca8 No.1092

>>1090
>style over substance
Shouldn't be a problem for me. I generally value visuals more than I value plot so knowing that, now I think I'll definitely watch it tomorrow

922d7 No.1113

>>1092
Well cool, report back to here then!

11ca8 No.1122

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>>1113
Just finished it. The plot and premise indeed weren't really captivating, and the film's style was a little too goofy in my opinion. Plus few scenes when director tried to put emphasis on Zero being a refugee were completely out of place. But I liked film photography very much. Its dynamics, illumination and staging made the film look kind of theatrical, inattention to detail also empowers this impression. Views of architecture's interior designs were also really great - sometimes I felt like architecture even played its own role in the film, being timeless and static on the outside but on the contrary extremely lively inside. So, even if at the first glance it may not seem like it, I found film's compostion to be complete and all-inclusive. I aslo liked few gags here and there, and in the end although the plot wasn't anything to write home about as I've mentioned before, it definitely wasn't boring. So, overall, I'd say that film is a good 7/10

11ca8 No.1124

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Speaking of architecture, what do you guys think of art-deco?

922d7 No.1125

>>1122
The film is like I said total eye candy. I really love it for that though, and I'm glad you enjoyed it! Most of Anderson's other films are nothing to write home about tbh, they're needlessly quirky but without the style of Grand Budapest to make it interesting.

>>1124
I know dick all about architecture but I will say I fucking love those examples you posted, so I guess I have a preference for art-deco. Though I like a lot of fascist architecture too, I just think it's neat.

922d7 No.1272

>>1062
I've been thinking of picking up Atlas Shrugged but I've heard it's either the best thing ever or total shit. What are people's opinions on it?

c5a7c No.1275

>>1272
BOOKS ARE FOR NEEEERDS!!!!

922d7 No.1293

>>1272
I've decided to download a PDF and give it a quick read through the first couple chapters. If I like it I'll buy it and report back.

bea46 No.1294

>>1272
don't hold your breath
as a work of fiction it's okay
as a work of philosophy it's fedoralord country

922d7 No.1296

>>1294
Objectivism is dumb as shit so I figured as much

11ca8 No.1300

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>>1125
I really like how mighty but at the same time gracious and slender it looks like. It may not be as daring and interesting as early XXth century avant-garde but it still has some charm to it.
>>1272
Don't. It's stylistically challanged and its philosophy is retarded, so plot is basically this book's only redeeming quality. If you are in the mood for something big, read Tolstoy instead

922d7 No.1322

>>1300
Eh, guess I'll avoid it then, thanks for the help

1ea42 No.1391

>>1296
spoken like a true surface dwelling bipedal

bea46 No.1444

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>>1062
Started watching midnight gospel
Contrary to how it looks it's actually not a "normal" cartoon it seems to be more of an animated podcast
It's a very strange format but interesting

922d7 No.1449

>>1444
Gave this a watch, it's very comfy. I like the atmosphere.

f9aa7 No.1451

>>1444
Cool trips

bea46 No.1455

>>1449
It can get a bit preachy at times but I guess it's the nature of letting people talk about their favorite lifechanging things. I do like the less "normal" topics about death and methods of self-reflection/improvement desu, besides the obvious there's also stuff in there I've never even heard of. This one guy in episode 3 basically approaches the idea of goal-oriented mindfulness as if it is ritual magic

bcfbb No.1459

>>1455
I've only seen the first episode so far and I liked it a lot. It's just so casual while also looking gorgeous.

33af7 No.1623

I've read The Physicists by Durrenmatt recently. It was rather brief and unfunny, as expected of a German (Swiss) comedy. But since this one was supposed to be rather dark as the author himself admitted, I guess it's not such a big loss. Moreover, as far as I understand it was also intended to be a parody of tragedy rather than plain comedy, which kind of makes sense considering that the problematique (uncontrollable development of technology) in this work is actually pretty serious. However, due to the work's brevity, I don't think it was revealed to its fullest - but even then author managed to make few points clear. Also, I've enjoyed a couple of monologues, especially Moebius declaring his psalm. So, while I definitely wouldn't call this work great, it was a pleasant read. Anyone else had any experience with post-war German-language literature?

922d7 No.1625

This is pretty pleb-tier but I just finished watching Inception for the first time and honestly I think it's one of the most creative and thought provoking films I've seen in years.

73459 No.1626

>>1625
Do you think it ended in a dream or not?

922d7 No.1627

>>1626
I feel like the entire purpose of the ending was to say that it's uncertain. I know from a marketing perspective it's a way to keep people talking/debating about the movie, but to me, the artistic point of it is that there's no real certainty to anything and "reality" is subjective.

922d7 No.1628

>>1627
Also when you really think about it, you can go super deep and say that this is all a dream, and the movie in and of itself was an inception that our reality isn't real, much like the one the main character's wife got.



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